Where the Bloody Hell Are Ya?

Shrimps on the barbie are so passe, so we got Koala's in a biscuit.

German supermarket shelves have been stocked with koala-shaped biscuits in a bid to lure more big-spending German tourists to Queensland

After reading this, i have to ask "Lara Bingle, where the bloody hell are ya"

Yup, they must of had a pack of monkeys working on this really progressive, memorable and stoopid campaign.

Things Girlfriends Say

Was wrong with your knob?!

Of course she was referring to the window winder in my car, but still not something any guy wants to hear.

World's Highest Ranking Military Penguin

The World would be a much better place if there were more penguins in military positions of power. Just look at the respect this little Avian Bugger is getting. Ever heard of Norway attacking anyone, well, I rest my case.

When the Norwegian King's Guard visited Edinburgh Military Tattoo of 1961 for a Drill Display,[1] a lieutenant called Nils Egelien became interested in Edinburgh Zoo's penguin colony. When the Guards once again returned to Edinburgh in 1972, he arranged for the unit to adopt a penguin. This penguin was named Nils Olav in honour of Nils Egelien, and King Olav V of Norway.

Nils Olav was given the rank of visekorporal (lance corporal) and has been promoted each time the King's Guard has returned to the Tattoo. In 1982 he was made corporal, and promoted to sergeant in 1987. Nils Olav died shortly after his promotion to sergeant, and his place of honour was taken by Nils Olav II, his two-year-old near-double. He was promoted in 1993 to the rank of regimental sergeant major. On August 18, 2005, he was promoted to Colonel-in-Chief.[2] He is the first penguin to hold this rank in the Norwegian army. At the same time a four foot high bronze statue of Nils Olav was presented to Edinburgh Zoo. The statue's inscription recognises the King's Guard and the Military Tattoo. A statue also stands at the Royal Norwegian Guard compound at Huseby, Oslo.

Man's Best Friend - Proof Positive

A dog is truly a man's best friend. If you don't believe it, just try this experiment.......

Put your dog and your wife in the boot of the car for an hour. When you open the boot, who is really happy to see you!?

A Hard Week's Work

I work with some serious Geeks, some of them in Denial, but very entertaining nonetheless. Have any of you ever wondered whether the Star Ship Enterprise would win a battle against the Gallactica, probably not. Well fear not, these Serious Geeks i work with have already done so for you. This week, we have been debating Star Trek Vs Gallactica on the online bulletin boards, everything you never wanted to know is covered. Check it out!

From: Rob, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:23 AM

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Who would win a battle out of these ships?

From: Steve, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:23 AM

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Subject: BSG Vs Star Trek

This is just so geeky, but I'll join in.

I agree with Ricky, the comparisons can only be done on the amount of ordinance that the ships can use.

The Galactica and the Pegasus have the extra capability of launching multiple small fighters to intercept any incoming ships before they come into weapons range. Therefore a large amount of damage can be inflicted before the main ship joins the battle.

In terms of shielding, the Defiant and the Enterprise have shields, with the Defiant equipped with ablative armour.

The Galactica and the Pegasus will sustain damage for some time, but any damage is directly to the hull.

The attack plan for the BSG ships would be to launch several squadrons of Vipers to attack the incoming ship and wear down it's shielding and armour. Then go in for the kill with nukes, etc.

The Next Gen ships can only attack themselves, so must come into range of any ship they are attacking.

In summary, I'd put money on Galactica coming out of it on top. 'Cause the ace up the sleeve is to warp out to a safe location and leave the attack to the Vipers.

From: Ric, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:31

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While getting involved in this sort of conversation will doom me to the deepest pits in Hell….

Easy answer. The Defiant. It has shields and it has anti-matter based torpedoes. Admittedly, the amount of hard ordinance the Galactica can chuck out would make for an interesting puzzle on getting close enough for effective damage, it has the capability of warp travel for any distance / any speed and so can jump around all over the place, making it next to impossible to target.


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From: T, MR
Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 09:59

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Subject: BSG Vs Star Trek

The Defiant would be very good as the BattleStars aren't maneuverable, but did you take into account the Vipers???

Mass of numbers would put the BattleStars ahead in my books and therefore the Pegasus gets my vote as it has the better weaponry of the 2.

From: C, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:31

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Depending on the tactics and the commanding officer, I'd say the Defiant as well mainly due to shields, armour and weapons. However it would be interesting to see what the Battlestars nukes would do to the Defiant. The NX-01 would get pounded!
Cheers, Chris


From: S, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:38

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Toug call but I think the Battlestar ships would come out on top. The Galactica dwarfs the Defiant in size but as the others have said, Its a numbers game for them all they have to do is launch squadrons of vipers and its a whole new ball game which depends on how long the Defiants shields hold.

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Cylons Vs The Borg

From: M, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:55

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It is a tough call, but the design of the ship isn't as important (while very important) as the ability of its captain. Captains of note include Picard of the Enterprise, who had a battle manoeuvre named after him, and though not mentioned in previous posts, nor of television fame, Captain Jacob Keyes, from the Pillar of Autumn of HALO fame, who also had a battle manoeuvre named after him. I am unfamiliar with most of the others, but my point stands, in determining the victor, supplies, ordnance, and defensive capability are not the only attributes that must be measured.

From: H, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 10:57

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Sure, they can launch Vipers. They chase the Defiant for a while, then the Defiant goes to Warp, warps around to the other side of the Galactica (who are all looking at their real time screens going “What the??”), launches an entire spread of antimatter torpedoes into the engine area and fighter bays and then spends the next five minutes flying up and down the Galactica raking it with phaser fire while the Vipers spend all that time turning around and trying to get back to their ship while there is a ship to get back to.

If the Defiant can take out the Galactica’s FTL drive in the first attack run, the Galactica is dead.

From: K,

Mr Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:06

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Yes very Geeky...but who cares!!!!! Defiant would win easily for the reasons outlined by Ricky Holding. Defiant also has pulse phasers and Quantum torpedos, Galactica and Pegasus would not last very long aganist those weapons.

Now the Enterprise (NX01, A, B, C, D or E) or Defiant vs Star Destroyer from Star Wars. Now there is a competition. Wizard magazine had an article on this and they concluded that the Enterprise E would soundly defeat a Star destroyer because generally speaking Star Trek weapons seem to have more of an impact than Star wars weapons.


From: C, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:11

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I'm going with Pegasus. Its a survivor!!!!!!

It does come down to the captain and crew, but next gen tactics were as follows;
Worf: "The alien ship is firing again Captain, our shields are down to 15%, we have plasma leaks on all decks and we are venting atmosphere. Shall I return fire?"
Picard: "Careful Mr. Worf, we don't want to provoke them"

Cheers, Chris

From: M, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:30

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For those that don't know, and are interested.

These are to the best of my failing recollection.

The Picard manoeuvre involves a sudden, ward speed, jump into close proximity and then a point-blank broadside with all available weaponry.
The Keyes roll involved using a remote controlled, burning nuke as a flare to attract guided weapons, then to take cover behind an enemy ship in such a manner that the two ships slightly collided while getting into position (this bit is where 'roll' became part of the name). The collision weakens the enemy shields, they get hit by friendly fire (guided weapons fire not lead away by the nuke), then the nuke is guided around the enemy ships that fired the shots which chase it. They strike the enemy, damaging the shields, the nuke is detonated, destroying or disabling the enemy ships.

From: H, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:31
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I wouldn't try to answer that question until someone cleared this point - how do the Federation shields hold up against projectile weapons rather than energy?

The Feds should make peace with the Colonials. Then they'd have someone who could fight the Borg, at least in close quarters fighting - Colonial assault carbines rather than those damn phasers.


From: A, Miss

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:34
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Definitely the Defiant - it has a cloaking device

From: M, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:38

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Subject: BSG Vs Star Trek

I'd have to go with the Pegasus as well, because Cain was bonkers and would have run over the Enterprise/Defiant.

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From: M, Mr

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 11:49
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You would also have to take into account the flack cannons from the Battlestar's which might make it quite hard for the Defiant to even get a torpedo though. Those flack cannons are like running into a wall of exploding artillery. But the Defiant would probably get the first shot in being able to cloak.

In my opinion there is way to much ordnance on the BSG/BSP for the other ships to even get close. But it dose depend on the firing range of each ship. If Enterprise has a good enough range with it's phasers it would only have to take out the Vipers and then sit back and use phasers to destroy the Battlestar's.

Taking into account Captains of the ships I would have to say the Galactica because of the old Adarma's skill compared to young Adarma on the BSP.


From: Michael MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:01

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I wouldn't try to answer that question until someone cleared this point - how do the Federation shields hold up against projectile weapons rather than energy?

The Feds should make peace with the Colonials. Then they'd have someone who could fight the Borg, at least in close quarters fighting - Colonial assault carbines rather than those damn phasers.

From: U, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:02

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From: R, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:06

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One of the ST:NG episodes has an escape pod bump into the shields. It bounced off. From that I would suspect that the shields would be resistant to impact. With the human love of history and the wide range of technological levels they would encounter, I doubt they would have shields that could be defeated by a simple rock.


Flak guns etc would have zero impact on anything from NCC-1701 onwards. Being high speed matter, the Deflectors would take care of them and not the sheilds.

Another point in ST favour? Transporters. The final solution is a container of anti-matter from the engines beamed over into the Galactica/Pegasus and the container beamed back...... big bang and all over.


From: P, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:13

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Why is it that the BSG ships are constrained by physical reality, whereas the Star Trek ships can use weapons that are lazy storytelling devices?

From: H, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:24

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Actually, the Galactica could do something similar, if they only thought about it. The Raptors have FTL drives as well. This means they can be quite small. Can you imagine the effect of having a Raptor jump into a warp core? Or just even the bridge? Targeting might be an issue, but have a dozen or so with jumps pre-programmed. As soon as the target gets more or less in the right spot, do the jump.

From: L, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:24

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IIRC they never tried beaming back just the container in the episodes. I suspect that would take too much accuracy for the transporter to achieve.
What they could do however, is ensure the antimatter is unstable, or becomes unstable shortly after transportation. This would then leave the enemy with barely enough to realise they had to escape, let alone do so. don't forget though that he shields have to be down to transport (or did they remove this inconvenience in later ships?)

From: O, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 13:54

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Too much accuracy for a transporters? I would hope they are accurate enough to achieve that task if they can assemble and reassemble human inner workings. I also find it interesting that you can transport anti-matter safely as surely it is uncontained (even if only very quickly) during the transportation process. I am sure I will be corrected with a very long winded explanation of the inner workings of a transporter system ;-)

From: R2, MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 13:58

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Well the transporters option would bring a whole different world of options (not just beaming anti-matter) e.g.; Other forms of explosives, Assault teams (how would a phaser rifle effect the inside of a battlestar?)

From: P, MR

Posted At: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 07:14

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the container of anti mater and beaming back the container was Scotty's solution to the Kobiayashi Maru at command school.
Transporters were accurate enough to do it when Scotty was at command school so the Defiant would have no problem doing the same trick

From: M, MR

Posted At: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 09:12
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..yes but you are talking about Scotty "The Miracle Worker", the man who got the Constitution class defiant's phaser banks charged back up in "The Doomsday Machine", the man who killed the Excelsior's Trans-warp drive in "STIII:TSFS", the man who reformed two Kirks into one with the transporter in "The Enemy Within", the man who survived 75 years in a transporter buffer in "Relics", the man who had to "Change the laws o' physics!" in "The Naked Time".

The Defiant has Miles O'Brien as its chief engineer and transporter chief and while he's good, he is no Scotty! The Anti-matter container trick probably wouldn't work for them so they would just have to empty their Quantum Torpedo bays at the BSG ships instead to win .............. and my vote is that they would win!

From: Rod MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 12:36

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Subject: BSG Projectile weapons...

Flak guns etc would have zero impact on anything from NCC-1701 onwards. Being high speed matter, the Deflectors would take care of them and not the sheilds.

Another point in ST favour? Transporters. The final solution is a container of anti-matter from the engines beamed over into the Galactica/Pegasus and the container beamed back...... big bang and all over.

From: B MR

Posted At: Tuesday, 5 March 2008 11:08

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Why is it that the BSG ships are constrained by physical reality, whereas the Star Trek ships can use weapons that are lazy storytelling devices?

From: Shane MR

Posted At: Wednesday, 4 March 2008 12:43

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I'd say the Defiant might be in with a chance. Especially if able to use the Romulan cloaking device. After all, the BSGs don't have shields. A cloaked Defiant could cruise up to the landing bay of a Battlestar and lob in a photon or quantum (did the Defiant Class get those?) torpedo.

From: Jason MR

Posted At: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 12:00

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Bingo.

BSG should win, but ST would win because they can use what may as well be 'magic'.

From: Gavin Mr

Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 06:45

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Or ST could kill everyone on the BSG with Technobabble !

From: R MR
Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 9:23

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I wonder just how well Phasers would work against the Galactica's armour. Phasers are designed to work against shields and the light armour of the star trek universe.

I have never seen a description of the BSG's armour it would need to be amazing as it protects the during FLT, so it must be able to deflect/absorb a huge amount of energy


From: C MR
Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 9: 05
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The Battlestars armour works well enough. Both the Galactica and the Pegasus have received multiple nuclear hits and survived. The Pegasus seemed to come out better off than the G after getting hit by nukes, but that is because the Peggy is bigger and newer and the G had most of her armour removed for her impending retirement. Hence why the Columbia was the same shape as the G, but a lot more streamlined.
Cheers, Chris

From: H MISS

Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 08:39

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What about the metaphasic shielding that Janeway from the future brought back for Voyager to use to get past the Borg in ST:VOY Endgame????

From: B, Mr

Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 09:27

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Whilst measuring the actual capabilities and limitaions of each ship is an insurmountable task... I add this..

ST would have to win, because some Tech Chief or Android or Vulcans would come up with some way of reversing the polarity of some weird ass wave
through the deflector sheild whilst turning the coffee machine off and on in 10 Forward mess to cause a phase loopback error in their flux capacitor (sorry about
the Back to the Future ref), thus causing a catastrophic cascading failure of thier inverse synthetic appature array (mmmmm ISAR)

From: Scott Mr

Posted At: Thursday, 6 March 2008 09:27

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I think by the time Adama and Col Tigh stopped arguing about what needs to be done to would be all over red rover!!!!.............Although if Adama was to find out that Voyager was commanded by a woman that would certainly get his blood boiling!!!!!!